Excited about tongkat ali

Consistently high levels of testosterone are essential for optimal sex, bodybuilding, and general health. However, any pharmaceutical agent used to induce increased testosterone synthesis looses its effectiveness as the body gets used to it and initiates a negative-feedback loop.

Sumatra Pasak Bumi, with website www.tongkatali.org, has therefore come up with a regimen to alternate the two only genuinely androgenic herbals, tongkat ali and butea superba. Both herbals have been shown to increase testosterone in numerous scientific studies, but they do so on entirely different pathways.

A bleeding butra superba root. The red sap, which is the basis of butea superba 1:120 extract, is highly androgenic in men.


The sound idea propagated on tongkatali.org is to use tongkat ali for about 5 days, and then switch to butea superba for 5 days. No off-cycles are needed with this regimen. Both herbals are available as high-potency extracts on tongkatali.org.


What is a tongkat ali penis?

No, “tongkat ali penis” doesn’t refer to a scammer, or “tongkat ali asshole”. Though it would be a tempting addition to the urban dictionary, the reference here is less glamorous. Sure, tongkat ali fakers deserve any degree of contempt, especially when they substitute an effective herbal with their own masturbation techniques (see here when in the mood for some fun). However, a tongkat ali penis is more like a medical condition, void of derogatory associations.

When I was a teenager, I often had a tennis elbow. Now, I’m in my 50s, and I often have a tongkat ali penis.

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Fact is, our elbows haven’t been designed to hit a ball with a racket for two hours a day. They will get sore.

And I doubt that any man’s penis can cope with two hours of penetration every day.

But that can be my schedule when I am in a full tongkat ali cycle with 2 grams of 1:50 extract per day.

Yes, 2 grams a day is double the standard dosage of 1 gram per day. I have even gone to 4 grams per day. I tried 4 grams per day because I wanted to test tongkat ali extract for side effects.

I used open extract that is shipped in pouches. I found out that it is best to mix one’s daily dosage with half a glass of orange juice. While tongkat ali is bitter, the orange juice is best suited to mask the taste.

So, tongkat ali side effects. I have had feedback from one bodybuilder who consumed in one go 15 gram of 1:50 extract. He vomited.

Obviously, tongkat ali extract is a medication, not a herb or spice like ginger. I don’t know what a 15-fold overdose is for ginger, but I have tried a 4-fold dose of tongkat ali extract.

I did not vomit. Actually, I did not feel any physical side effects. But using 4 grams a day over several days definitely lowered my anger and fury thresholds.

This means that small disturbing events such as a fellow participant in road traffic violating my right of way could, in the span of seconds, raise my anger-related adrenaline tone to maximum levels. In such a situation, I am mentally not far away from just ramming my car into his, and I could fantasize for half an hour about using the steel bar of my steering wheel lock to smash his windshield, and even the driver’s head.

Such deeds, of course, would be unwise indeed. I believe that we ought to control and subdue our aggressive impulses, as otherwise, we will certainly land in jail or in hospital.

Uncontrolled aggressiveness can lead us towards doing things, which we later deeply regret.

Alas, this aggressiveness is also a central aspect of being male. And my maleness is something I don’t want to interfere with… not negatively anyway.

So I bear with the aggressiveness, though it is a potential disadvantage. A side effect that is dangerous more to my social environment than it is to me.

And yes, there is the additional side effect which I have termed, in the first sentences of this article, a “tongkat ali penis”.

Soreness from overuse.

If I have penetrative intercourse for up to 2 hours for several days in a row, my dear member will show signs of skin irritation (redness, soreness), and sometimes even heavy skin irritation (fissures).

Penile skin is thin. You can’t rub it for two hours day in, day out, and expect it to remain fully intact. You can’t do this with your skin anywhere on your body, even if you use a lubricant.

I cycle tongkat ali extract two weeks on, one week off. Because of the negative feedback mechanisms that rule the endocrine system, cycling is the correct approach for any hormonal therapy.

In this case, cycles are also called for to allow one’s “tongkat ali penis” the necessary rest for a few days.


1 Christopher C. K. Ho, Hui Meng Tan , Rise of Herbal and Traditional Medicine in Erectile Dysfunction Management, Erectile Dysfunction (Thomas Lue, Section Editor) Current Urology Reports December 2011, Volume 12, Issue 6, pp 470-478

2 Dr. Geo Espinosa, N.D., L.Ac, CNS, RH (AHG), Top Nine Supplements for Erectile Dysfunction and Sexual Health


Worldwide tongkat ali shortage

By Sam Sanare

Updated: 2016-06-04

Apart from being a testosterone booster, and a proven malaria defense, highly concentrated tongkat ali extract is the world’s only drug that effectively treats recurring migraines and persistent headaches. However, only high-concentration extract will work to wash out migraine-causing chemicals, and a particular dietary regimen must be part of the treatment.

Tongkat ali is already rare and expensive. Which is why it is hardly ever used for malaria. Anyway, malaria prevails only among the poor in the poorest countries of the world, so no competing buyers there for already expensive tongkat ali. There are also cheap chemical malaria drugs, so the issue of tongkat ali and malaria is not urgent.

The market for sexual enhancement substances contributes much more seriously to the depletion of the tongkat ali tree in the forests of Southeast Asia, the only part in the world where it grows.

Just look at Pfizer’s Blue sales to get an idea:

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But what really pushes the tongkat ali tree to the brink of extinction is
the root’s effectiveness against migraines and other headaches.

There are more than 100 million migraine sufferers in the developed world.

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And only a high-concentration tongkat ali extract, and even that in comparatively high dosages, will reliably work against migraine attacks.

A serious tongkat ali shortage, accompanied by rising prices, is
pre-programmed by nature. Tongkat ali roots take 15 years to grow to reach
their pharmacological usefulness. And tongkat ali is very selective as to
where it grows: it prefers only sandy sloops in tropical rain forests.

Tongkat ali is already a protected plant in Malaysia and Thailand. And Indonesia, while not withdrawing old permits, is no longer issuing government licenses for new tongkat ali products. Indonesia has also started to intercept illegal tongkat ali products, and illegal items declared as tongkat ali, at all the country’s post offices.

All of these aspects combined do not look like a scenario for falling prices.

But what you will see, sure as hell, are ever more fakes. Even now, ingredients dealers in the USA just sell root powder and say it’s extract. And traders on Alibaba, eBay, and Amazon just sell cheap tribulus, or
chemical mixtures from China, and claim: hey, man, this is genuine tongkat ali from Indonesia. Bullshit!


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How safe is tongkat ali

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Larger testicles from tongkat ali

By Sam Sanare

Updated: 2016-06-15

Because tongkat ali (or rather: a tongkat ali extract at a proper dosage) stimulates the Leydig cells to synthesize more testosterone, it is a natural occurrence that testicles will become larger. Likewise, bodybuilders who abuse steroids shut down their Leydig cells and therefore suffer penile and testicular atrophy (a pathological shrinking of the penis and testicles to boyhood size). Many bodybuilders therefore use tongkat ali after steroid cycles to get their penis and testicles back to an adult appearance, or they use tongkat ali together with steroids to prevent penile and testicular shrinking in the first place.

However, as with any pharmacologically active substance, one can overdose with tongkat ali. It is not, for example, advisable to use 5 gram of 1:50 tongkat ali extract per day, as this can have unwanted side effects such as extreme and painful testicular swelling.


I bought some tongkat ali 1:50 extract in October. I have also used tongkat in May / June last year in high dosages, up to 4 grams a day, without any problems except pressure in the head which is normal as I understand.

This time, after a few days moderate use , I got pain in my left testicle and started feeling sick as if I was getting a flue or a cold (no or little fever though).

The pain in my testicle, which was getting swollen, almost disappeared in a couple of days. I have been examined and a small cyst was found – nothing critical. The reason I am starting to suspect tongkat for the swelling is that I’ve tried using it a couple of times in the period since I got sick and I’ve felt really reduced the day after taking a dosage of about 1 gram. This can’t be a coincidence. I was trying about a week after the infection, or what it was, to take tongkat because I was feeling better, and to my surprise I got worse again and started to feel dull pain in my testicles again. I’ve been a little reduced all the time up to now and still am, though I’m feeling a lot better – feels just like a weak cold now. Yesterday though, at about 7pm, I took 3 capsules of 400mg 1:50 extract and didn’t feel too bad that day though I did get the weak dull pain in my testicles back. Today that pain is a little more pronounced, and I’m feeling like I have a flue coming, just like those last times. My energy levels are really low. The tongkat is working like it usually does in addition to the bad symptoms. I know it is tongkat, I have got to put it that way.

So my question is: Is it possible that there could be spores of fungus in the capsules that has broken out or maybe other things that could make me ill?

I hadn’t been with a woman since April so I don’t believe it could be a sexually transmitted disease. I haven’t been flat out sick either. The one thing I am a 100% certain about is that taking tongkat now will make me fell ill. Nausea is also present. Isn’t it so that one can get sterile of the fungus that could be on tongkat ali roots? My doctor gave me antibiotics soon after I got the testicular swelling problem. This didn’t make me feel better though.


The symptoms described cannot have anything to do with fungi or bacteria that would be present on tongkat ali extract. If there were fungi or bacteria, they would affect the gastro-intestinal tract, not the testicles.

That said, it seems that the tongkat ali has a pronounced effect on the person who’s report is presented above. Because tongkat ali stimulates testosterone production, it can cause testicular swelling. Furthermore, via increased testosterone levels, tongkat ali can also activate the neurotransmitter dopamine. This can cause nausea, apart from having other symptoms such as increased libido. An alternative use of one dopaminergic drug, apomorphine, which is prescribed in Europe for libido problems, is as an enemic… a medication that induces nausea up to the level of vomitting. As always, the effect is determined by the dosage, and that holds for the tongkat ali, too.


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3 Shin-ichi Hisasue, Contemporary perspective and management of testosterone deficiency: Modifiable factors and variable management, International Journal of Urology Volume 22, Issue 12, pages 1084–1095, December 2015


Is masturbation bad for health?

From a purely medical, or physiological, perspective, masturbation doesn't have a major impact on a person's health. You don't get syphilis from masturbation, and by itself, it doesn't cause mental ilness. On the other hand, for centuries or millenia, masturbation has been viewed extremely negative by almost all cultures if the world. In Catholic education, especially in Spain, masturbating boys were severely punished, and the Spanish language has many deragotary words for men practicing masturbation. On the other hand, a Singaporean of Spanish descent, Fran Sanches Oreja, has built a reputation propagating masturbation and educating other men on how he does it correctly.

Excerpts from the masturbeation manual of Fran Sanches:

“… Masturbating for great sexual health… can increase your testosterone levels, specially when combined with ejaculation edging. I could probably make another post just on this, but in a nutshell if you masturbate until you are close to climax then stop, and repeat several times, your testosterone levels will build up significantly.”

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